Rossal
1:01 Tue Aug 2
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Positives
- Kept Rice and Bowen
- Added striker
- Good manager and coaching staff
- Europa Conference should allow us to play more kids than the EL, putting less strain on the squad
- Teams in bottom half don't seem to have strengthened much
Negatives
- Squad is arguably thinner than last season
- Left back is a weakness
- Starting 11 is no stronger than last season
- Lack of signings
- Jam packed fixture list till xmas will push squad quite hard
- Few injuries away from a shit team/squad
- Newcastle Spurs and Arsenal all look to be much stronger than last season
I think 8th at best, think we will be 8-11th if we have a few injuries as usual. Our dealings in the transfer window these past 2-3 weeks have really cost us. If we had another 3/4 in the door and ready to go there would be optimism. But with so many games coming up and amazingly our squad looking even thinner than last season I am more pessimistic than optimistic at the moment.
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joyo
12:52 Tue Aug 2
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Manure will struggle for top 6,Leicester ain't bought anyone and probably selling some top players if money right,Villa mid table at best,Wolves again be unknown as dont score enough goals
Palace will make top half
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Russ of the BML
12:46 Tue Aug 2
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happygilmore 1:50 Mon Aug 1
Yep, forgot Wolves. Makes it even harder for us to get top six, let alone top ten.
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Russ of the BML
12:45 Tue Aug 2
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Manuel 1:36 Mon Aug 1
Agreed. As much as it hurts me to say it - In the last two windows Spurs have showed West Ham how to operate in the transfer market if you want top four and top six aspirations.
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happygilmore
1:50 Mon Aug 1
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Russ of the BML 1:13 Mon Aug 1
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I'd expect Wolves to be in the top 10 ahead of a few of them you have mentioned.
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zico
1:50 Mon Aug 1
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I still think we need a central midfielder and a left back or will Moyes just be happy with Downes?!
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Coffee
1:42 Mon Aug 1
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Russ of the BML 1:13 Mon Aug 1
Not sure about Leicester or Villa in the chasing pack.
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Manuel
1:36 Mon Aug 1
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Russ of the BML 1:13 Mon Aug 1
Yep, it shouldn't be forgotten that Jan was literally a non-event and we were also meant to be playing catch up this window from that window (after Moyes insisted the right players weren't available) as well as supposedly having a good summers window. They have pulled the same stunt before and everyone is just meant to forget.
As a comparison, Spurs had a good Jan, and have had a good current window, to date.
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Russ of the BML
1:13 Mon Aug 1
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Realistically I don't think we can aspire to anything above 8th in PL.
Top six will be (in no particular order)
Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man Utd
Arsenal
Spurs
Chasing group will be (in no particular order):
Newcastle
Leicester
Villa
West Ham
We've done nowhere near enough in the January and this window to even contemplate getting into top six. And I doubt we've done enough to guaruntee being top of the chasing group.
Yes, its all negative, but its realstic. Our owners have shit on us and the club in the last two windows and fucked any realistic chance of us becoming a top six club.
Top six have strengthened and chasing group have strengthened. We've stood still. Scamacca will be a good signing but we were so short up front anyway its really only filled what we shouldve had since Haller left. Nuygurd in and injured (nobodys fault). Keeper signed who we already had. Downes is a good signing but not yet a first team impact player.
Top half in PL is a hope. Good cup runs and good go in Europe. is best we can hope for .
Newcastle
Aston Villa
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balders
12:47 Mon Aug 1
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Anywhere between 9th and 14th
Small squad will bite us again
Just hoping for a great European run
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claret on my shirt
12:40 Sun Jul 31
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A lot i think lays on Scamacca's shoulders, we need him to score 15+ goals and that's alot to ask in his 1st season especially as it seems he is some way off full fitness.
Leicester have brought no one, Wolves have added little, Newcastle not alot either and Man U look weaker to me at the moment. Arsenal have made some top signings though.
So get a left back, keep the key players healthy and we will be top 10 pushing for Europe again
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happygilmore
12:19 Sun Jul 31
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Eerie Descent 6:41 Thu Jul 28
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Anyone thinking Man Utd will have another shit season will be shocked, they'll finish in the top 4 this year, if I had to be exact I think they'll finish 3rd. They have loads of talent, and now a proper manager.
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I'd snap the hand off anyone foolish enough to back Man Utd for 3rd.
Loads of talent? as things stand they are are starting with a CM of McTominay & Fred again. Dalot & Maguire at the back!
Can't say I know much about Ten Hag, other than he fits the profile of, a foreigner manager who looks like Pep. Let's see how he handles the want away Ronaldo. If TH is to change things, it is going to take more than one season. 5th or 6th is about as good as they will do
As for the Hammers, still need signings or standing still is about the best we can do. between 6th and 10th for us, I reckon, unless we make a couple of key signings before the window closes.
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RBshorty
6:19 Fri Jul 29
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For better. Or worse.Sky and the Premiership have widen the casual football fan across the globe. How many families did you see back then. Girls talking about football. Weekend tourist turning up for a match.?
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Crassus
6:06 Fri Jul 29
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RB
Yeah I know, and mentioned that, but it existed in the 70's and 90's but our attendances dropped very low, even in 85/86, there was a decade or so of abnormally low numbers
I recall 85/86 season averaging less than 20k
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RBshorty
5:55 Fri Jul 29
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Hooliganism is what happened between the 70's and 90's. One or two might get misty eyed about the "Good Old Days." But the stats don't lie. It was a major pain in the arse for all football supporters.
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Crassus
5:41 Fri Jul 29
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Bank
I agree with that, but I'm not at all shocked that we fill that bowl, grim as it is
There was a report produced prior to us leaving UP, and at the time we had the leagues highest attendance as a % of capacity across not only that season but prior too
What is a shocking thing mind are the attendances in the 80's - 85/86 make stunning reading, given the season
Strange, had strong away support but at home very poor. Not sure what happened between the 70's and the 90's that caused the decline - and the general 'culture' surely could not be responsible, as I said away we were strong
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southbankbornnbred
12:49 Fri Jul 29
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Crassus 6:39 Thu Jul 28
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Yeah, I remember Dein saying something like that, fella. Good recall.
The other London clubs have always worried that West Ham would one day awaken and find our full potential. Through their own marketing and assessments about which communities support which clubs and why etc, they realised long ago that there was huge latent support for West Ham.
I think we've moved a little closer to it in very recent seasons, on the pitch at least, but we still have a long way to go off it. I know the capacity of the athletics stadium has played a big part, of course (and there are all kinds of issues linked to that and the sort of matchday fans), but I can't think of too many clubs in history that almost doubled their average attendances overnight. Particularly within a big, multi-team city like London.
It just goes to show the potential that is here. It's still largely untapped, and I won't pretend that every decision that attempts to tap into it is a good one (for me, the stadium is still not a football ground). But it's a glimpse of what West Ham could be.
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Full Claret Jacket
8:21 Thu Jul 28
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Arsenal and Spurs were terrible at the beginning of at season but seemed to find form. I thought we were the opposite and faded badly. I don't realistically see better than mid table but hope for Europa league place somehow rather than the tinpot Europa conference farmers league.
A cup or proper run in a cup would at least give the impression of progress.
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Texas Iron
7:53 Thu Jul 28
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Amazing…4
Fantastic…5
Outstanding…6
Excellent…7
Good…8
Ok…9
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Eerie Descent
7:42 Thu Jul 28
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Charoo 7:19 Thu Jul 28
I sincerely hope you're right mate, but clubs that size, it doesn't take a lot to get them back on track. They've got a very good manager, who's clear in what he's doing, and about a billion pounds worth of talent at his disposal.
It's all academic though, really. The top 6 will remain the same, in whatever order, and we've got a much harder task to be the next best.
If I had to put money on it, I'd have us 9th. But again, let's hope that's wrong!
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Grumpster
7:26 Thu Jul 28
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Think the race for 3rd and 4th will be a lot more interesting than the race for the title which I'd imagine City will piss now they actually have a striker and a fucking good one.
Clearly arsenal, spurs and man utd have all improved, so unless our players have a season of worldies, probably looking at 7th as the main aim again, unless obviously we go out in the next month and sign a couple of top drawer players, especially a left back.
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